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User: theunknown
#31 Posted : Monday, December 01, 2014 4:48:14 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Hai Lúa Go to Quoted Post
3. It won't be awkward if you have 2 monitors. In the demo, I'm recording my screen so I had to limit down to 1 screen. Being able to undock it to a separate window thì flexible hơn chứ - you can leave the video window alone and do your search (youtube) or search/control (online songbook) on a separate screen. I want to keep the implementation detachable so that future feature such as search/browse youtube over the online songbook site using a phone and then add that song to TKaraoke via the internet is easier to implement.


Hi V, I only have ONE monitor which is my TV.

Since you cannot change the design, could you move the "Youtube browser" off the TOOLs menu? Leave it on a separate Menu itself, for a quicker clicking :)




User: tkaraokeuser
#32 Posted : Monday, December 01, 2014 6:25:23 AM(UTC)
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1. Không cho coi preview thì sao user biết bài đó là bài họ muốn? You can click on the "mute" icon on the YouTube player in the browser to disable audio. This setting will be remembered for next searches/views.

>> Cũng không ít Youtube contents họ post với chữ "Karaoke" và có cả Karaoke text scrolling on the screen nhưng với tiếng ca sỹ trong đó chứ không phải Karaoke track đâu anh. Vì vậy khi browse and view là phải với Audio on chứ không Mute được đâu. Ai đã từng đi kiếm Karaoke trên Youtube đều hiểu được cái nỗi khổ này lắm :) Content loại khác Mute thì ok chứ Karaoke là hơi bị subtle đó.

Mình "preview" thẳng trong video screen của TKPro cũng được vậy anh, nếu không phải là cái mình thích hay tìm kiếm thì lại click vào link khác, đâu cần phải preview trong browser như bản nháp rồi mới chuyển qua play trong video screen của TKPro đâu. Em đề nghị như vậy vì 2 lý do: (1) save users a few more key strokes/clicks, and (2) more importantly, completely avoid those annoying Youtube ads vì lý do không Mute được đã nói ở trên.

W/ KMPlayer, in their earlier and less buggy versions, they took extra steps to parse Youtube's Source Pages (HTML/HTM pages) to get and display only the pertaining links in their own Youtube browser so that they could totally get rid of Youtube ads. Nếu mình không muốn đi xa như vậy và Left Click đã default to display Youtube content trong browser thì mình có thể implement Right Click w/ an option to play in TKPro cũng ok
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2. Popup không thích hợp với the the current architect allowing remote control (i.e. via online songbook). Lúc load page và preview nếu thích thì user có the save or whatever there chứ add vào queue slot rồi đến lúc bài đó được play thì user đó có thể đã long gone from the GUI.

>> Cái này không nhất thiết rigidly là phải pop up đó anh; anything similar is ok, as long as it can achieve the same effects - giving users 3 options as I listed on the previous post.

Nếu mình đã anticipate và intend to thì khi users vừa click vào Youtube link nào đó là mình đã bắt đầu catch and save info such as filename, URL, and streaming content rồi, đâu có để đến lúc "long gone from the GUI". Browser nào cũng có caching and Temp folder mà anh.


3. It won't be awkward if you have 2 monitors. In the demo, I'm recording my screen so I had to limit down to 1 screen. Being able to undock it to a separate window thì flexible hơn chứ - you can leave the video window alone and do your search (youtube) or search/control (online songbook) on a separate screen. I want to keep the implementation detachable so that future feature such as search/browse youtube over the online songbook site using a phone and then add that song to TKaraoke via the internet is easier to implement.

>> For me, most of the times, only the TV screen is utilized. This might be just a personal taste when I said it felt awkward w/ the floating Youtube browser. The ability to dock and undock it might be of interest for users, too.

Đây là những ý kiến riêng của em thôi. Nếu như anh nói có "technicial difficulties" hay là "current architect doesn't allow" thì em hiểu được. :) Cảm ơn anh nhiều nhé.






User: Hai Lúa
#33 Posted : Monday, December 01, 2014 7:08:14 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: theunknown Go to Quoted Post
Hi V, I only have ONE monitor which is my TV.

Since you cannot change the design, could you move the "Youtube browser" off the TOOLs menu? Leave it on a separate Menu itself, for a quicker clicking :)






With just one screen and it is hooked up to a TV, you gonna have a tough time searching for anything that requires more than a few clicks. I can provide a quick shortcut like F6 to bring it up but I think your best bet is to rely on the online songbook function to allow you do the searching for YouTube songs on your phone and let you add to the queue directly on the phone.
Lập loè lửa lựu đơm bông
Sau vài ba tháng đỏ hồng cả cây
Nỗi buồn vương vấn đâu đây
Đưa ta vào chốn lưu đày thế giang
Nghiệp này kiếp trước đã mang
Ngóng trông phép lạ bắt thang ta về
User: theunknown
#34 Posted : Monday, December 01, 2014 10:04:54 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Hai Lúa Go to Quoted Post
With just one screen and it is hooked up to a TV, you gonna have a tough time searching for anything that requires more than a few clicks. I can provide a quick shortcut like F6 to bring it up but I think your best bet is to rely on the online songbook function to allow you do the searching for YouTube songs on your phone and let you add to the queue directly on the phone.


Ok. can't wait to see the new SB function. Do you have an estimated time?

Thank you so much

User: locky
#35 Posted : Monday, December 01, 2014 12:04:29 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Hai Lúa Go to Quoted Post
With just one screen and it is hooked up to a TV, you gonna have a tough time searching for anything that requires more than a few clicks. I can provide a quick shortcut like F6 to bring it up but I think your best bet is to rely on the online songbook function to allow you do the searching for YouTube songs on your phone and let you add to the queue directly on the phone.


Searching and adding by other devices like smartphone .... when this feature available ? [huh]
User: Hai Lúa
#36 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:13:11 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: locky Go to Quoted Post
Searching and adding by other devices like smartphone .... when this feature available ? [huh]


We have done a prototype of this feature. I would say 1 to 2 weeks. The interface will be different from the YouTube Browser. You can see the preview frame of the matched songs and can play to know what it is like or if you are sure that is the right song, can add to the queue without playing the video on the phone.
Lập loè lửa lựu đơm bông
Sau vài ba tháng đỏ hồng cả cây
Nỗi buồn vương vấn đâu đây
Đưa ta vào chốn lưu đày thế giang
Nghiệp này kiếp trước đã mang
Ngóng trông phép lạ bắt thang ta về
User: locky
#37 Posted : Wednesday, December 03, 2014 9:57:14 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Hai Lúa Go to Quoted Post
We have done a prototype of this feature. I would say 1 to 2 weeks. The interface will be different from the YouTube Browser. You can see the preview frame of the matched songs and can play to know what it is like or if you are sure that is the right song, can add to the queue without playing the video on the phone.


[thumbup] and ... when requested name will be available on online songbook?
User: Hai Lúa
#38 Posted : Wednesday, December 03, 2014 9:58:34 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: locky Go to Quoted Post
[thumbup] and ... when requested name will be available on online songbook?


Tonight or tomorrow.
Lập loè lửa lựu đơm bông
Sau vài ba tháng đỏ hồng cả cây
Nỗi buồn vương vấn đâu đây
Đưa ta vào chốn lưu đày thế giang
Nghiệp này kiếp trước đã mang
Ngóng trông phép lạ bắt thang ta về
User: locky
#39 Posted : Wednesday, December 03, 2014 10:52:21 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Hai Lúa Go to Quoted Post
Tonight or tomorrow.


[thumbup] I need this for Xmas party. Add (+) song --> promp name (enter)--- OK, hope that we don't need to go to song queue to enter the name?
User: theunknown
#40 Posted : Wednesday, December 03, 2014 1:58:43 PM(UTC)
Neu co enter cung nen co skip nhe in case people 0 muon bo ten
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