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User: Hai Lúa
#1 Posted : Sunday, November 11, 2012 5:20:32 PM(UTC)
Starting with v1.5.043, TKaraokePro will support sound effects using VST Plugins. This feature comes with lot of features as the user can config their own Plugins to get the effects they want. TKaraoke will will ship with a free plugin to support pitch shifting (đổi tông nhạc). Users are encourage to use their own non-free plugins to achieve better pitch shifting accuracy and other advanced plugins.

There are plugins out there to achieve the following functionality:
1. Đổi tông nhạc (pitch shifing)
2. Cân bằng âm thanh (advanced audio volume control)

To use this new feature, the user must install the following. In the near future, the requirement of Virtual Audio Cable (VAC) will be lifted but as of build 043, VAC is required to function.
a. TKaraoke v1.5.046 or later
b. Reaper v0.999 (download)
c. PitchWorks (free pitch-shifting plugin - download)
d. Virtual Audio Cable (we can't provide download link because it's not free)

You'll have to try a trial version of VAC or buy it for now. Contact Ngày Nắng Mới or tkaraokeuser Offline for help obtaining VAC.


Setup Tutorials
See the tutorial video below for help with setting up this feature. Clearer version of the video can be viewed here.




Setup VAC

Double-click on VAC to install it.


Setup Plugins
Install your favorite plugins. To install the free PitchWorks plugin, double-click on it.


Setup Reaper
Double-click on Reaper to install it. After it installed, run it and uncheck "check for updates" and exit it.


Enable VST Effects in TKaraoke
See this topic for preparing your PC to use VST Effects in TKaraoke.


Using the VST Effects
To select an effect while singing, press "2" on the remote control to bring up the effect selection screen. After the Effects Selection screen appears, the following buttons will work on the remote:
  • Up Arrow: Select the next Preset
  • Down Arrow: Select the previous Preset
  • Left Arrow: Go to Neutral Effect Preset
  • Right Arrow: Go to the Current Preset
  • CLEAR: Reset to the neutral effect and apply
  • ENTER: Apply the selected effect immediately
  • If idled for 8 seconds, the currently selected effect will be applied

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If watermark is enabled, at the start of every song, the current effects will be displayed. The current audio delay time is also displayed. The Audio Delay can be changed via the Sounds Effects Preferences. The total delay time will be the delay specified in this Preferences screen plus the delay of the current effect preset. For example, if the Audio Delay on the Preferences is -250ms and the delay of the current preset effect is -100, the total delay will be -350ms.
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How to Configure Your Own Effects
Due to licensing, we can't ship advanced effects plugins with TKaraoke. If you have the effects installed on your computer, you can configure your own presets and have TKaraoke apply these effects when you sing.
1. Backup this folder in case you need to restore the factory default effects: C:\Program Files (x86)\TSofts\TKaraokePro\UserData\Effects\
2. In TKaraoke, click on Options-->Audio-->Sounds Effects
3. Click on Quit Reaper
3. Click on Make Reaper Visible
4. On Reaper, click on File-->Exit
5. Open the file !Effects.tkvstconfig using Nodepad or an XML editor. Note that all the presets are defined here. Each preset has an associated RPP file. This file is the Reaper Project File. You can open these files in Reaper and add/remove effects and save them. TKaraoke use your updated preset the next time you run TKaraoke.

As an example, I modified the default "!Default.RPP" and add some bass and bright to the music. After I'm done, I want to close the FX window of Reaper and save the project. When you are totally done with editing your effects, you want to save all your project files and run TKaraoke and click on Options-->Audio-->Sounds Effects and do the following to make sure the Reaper Window doesn't appear on top of your video when singing. You'll only have to do this once after making the Reaper Window visible for editing your own effects.
1. Click on Quit Reaper
2. Click on Move Reaper Offscreen
3. Click OK to close the Preferences dialog
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Frequently Asked Questions

Q1: There is no sound when playing a song in TKaraoke
A1: Go to Options-->Audio-->Sounds Effect and click on "Make Reaper Visible" to bring out Reaper. On Reaper, click on Options-->Preferences and select Device. Under Input Device, select "Virtual Audio Cable 1". Under Output Device, select your sound card device (i.e. Creative SB X-Fi). In Windows's Sound Control Panel, make sure the default Playback Device is set to "Virtual Audio Cable 1".
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Q2: When I apply a new preset, I see the Reaper window for a few seconds. How do I fix this?
A2: Go to Options-->Audio-->Sounds Effect, under the Effects Setup tab, do the following:
1. Click on Quit Reaper
2. Click on Move Offscreen

Edited by user Saturday, December 22, 2012 12:40:35 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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User: Hai Lúa
#2 Posted : Sunday, November 11, 2012 5:23:10 PM(UTC)
With this feature, the user can easily customize the effects to get these functionalities:
1. Tên tông, xuống tông - doesn't require any special sound card
2. Audio Normalization using DRC (Dynamic Range Compressor)
3. EQ
4. Other useful effects such as tempto changer (tăng/giảm nhịp)

For example, I use the Sony Pitch Shift to achieve "tên/xuống tông" functionality:
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I use the Waves's MaxxVolume compressor to achieve Auto Volume Control. It's a Dynamic Range Compressor so it would result in better audio normalization than the function provided by VLC.
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Note that you use Reaper's UI (screenshot above) to configure the effect (or effects chain) but once you are done and saved the project file, you won't see the reaper window ever again. TKaraoke will apply the effect behind the scene.

Any other useful effects that you guys typically use?

Edited by user Sunday, November 11, 2012 5:33:10 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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User: tkaraokeuser
#3 Posted : Sunday, November 11, 2012 7:13:31 PM(UTC)
This will handsomely unveil a whole new horizon for this very software since VST plug-ins are plenty out there and extremely dynamic. It will be more than enough to solve pretty much all the features TKaraPro users desire. Two thumbs up for you and your team. Congratulations! :) I really mean it...[thumbup] [thumbup]




User: Hai Lúa
#4 Posted : Monday, November 12, 2012 3:41:18 AM(UTC)
Thanks T[wub]. Demo video posted. Note that in the video, the audio is a little lagged behind. I recorded this using my iPhone5 and somehow, the audio is a little out of sync. You can tell in the video that I talked a little after the actions in the video cuz the audio is lagged behind.
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User: AZNguy
#5 Posted : Monday, November 12, 2012 3:07:52 PM(UTC)
Awesome! This is what I have been waiting for! Too bad I haven't had time to sing karaoke in a while. Very nice job!

User: tkaraokeuser
#6 Posted : Monday, November 12, 2012 5:31:42 PM(UTC)
Anh V, since we have both, Beat and Vocal, supposedly go thru the same sound card/audio interface at the same time for the purpose of computer karaoke, and also in order for us to utilize the Recording feature, What-U-Hear or Stereo-Mix should be chosen as Recording Device, my question is: does TKaraPro take care to specify what effect(s) will go to what channel? For instance, Vocal would love to be treated w/ Reverbs but doesn't seem to be the case for the Beat...
User: Hai Lúa
#7 Posted : Monday, November 12, 2012 5:45:19 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: tkaraokeuser Go to Quoted Post
Anh V, since we have both, Beat and Vocal, supposedly go thru the same sound card/audio interface at the same time for the purpose of computer karaoke, and also in order for us to utilize the Recording feature, What-U-Hear or Stereo-Mix should be chosen as Recording Device, my question is: does TKaraPro take care to specify what effect(s) will go to what channel? For instance, Vocal would love to be treated w/ Reverbs but doesn't seem to be the case for the Beat...

Interesting question. I think you must disable Stereo-Mix or What-u-Hear for it to work w/ both beat and vocal going through 2 separate set of VST effects. Here is the routing (I'm using X-Fi as an example):

Beat:
TKaraoke --> VAC --> VST Host--(plugins) -->X-Fi Playback --> Speakers

For the vocal, you can additionally run a second instance of Reaper (or other VST Host):
Mic--> PreAmp --> X-Fi Line-in--> VAC 2 --> VST Host 2 --(plugins) -->X-Fi Playback --> Speakers

I have not tested the vocal routing above so I'm not sure it it's 100% correct. VAC is a loop-back device (hardware implementation: feed line-out back into line-in, software implementation: Virtual Audio Cable or similar driver). The software approach for loop-back is pretty nice and the number of connections is pretty much unlimited. It also has no loss in quality because it just pass the same bytes from one device to another (hardware cable always incur some signal loss).
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User: Hai Lúa
#8 Posted : Tuesday, November 13, 2012 3:40:23 AM(UTC)
New demo posted. Build 042 should be released by this weekend [thumbup]
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User: tkaraokeuser
#9 Posted : Tuesday, November 13, 2012 12:06:36 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Hai Lúa Go to Quoted Post
Interesting question. I think you must disable Stereo-Mix or What-u-Hear for it to work w/ both beat and vocal going through 2 separate set of VST effects. Here is the routing (I'm using X-Fi as an example):

Beat:
TKaraoke --> VAC --> VST Host--(plugins) -->X-Fi Playback --> Speakers

For the vocal, you can additionally run a second instance of Reaper (or other VST Host):
Mic--> PreAmp --> X-Fi Line-in--> VAC 2 --> VST Host 2 --(plugins) -->X-Fi Playback --> Speakers

I have not tested the vocal routing above so I'm not sure it it's 100% correct. VAC is a loop-back device (hardware implementation: feed line-out back into line-in, software implementation: Virtual Audio Cable or similar driver). The software approach for loop-back is pretty nice and the number of connections is pretty much unlimited. It also has no loss in quality because it just pass the same bytes from one device to another (hardware cable always incur some signal loss).



I haven't tested this out yet but this suggestion of yours does make sense and look promising to me. But w/ this setting, I guess the Recording feature will not be put into place, correct?



User: CaliMoon
#10 Posted : Tuesday, November 13, 2012 12:25:59 PM(UTC)
Nice anh Vz! Great job@![bong 21] [bong 21] [thumbup] [thumbup]

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