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User: Hai Lúa
#1 Posted : Friday, June 18, 2010 9:01:48 AM(UTC)
Here is what I have as of June, 2010.

Sound Card - M-Audio Audiophile 2496:
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Mixer - Yamaha MG82cx:
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Channel Strip (a fancy mic pre-amp) - Focusrite Voicemaster Pro:
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Microphone 1 - Neumann KMS105:
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Microphone 3 - Audix OM-5
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Connections:
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Sample Recording:
All recordings are recorded using TKaraoke v1.4.0.086 raw (un-edited).

Microphone 1:


Microphone 2 - save $1500 in microphone and pre-amp cost:


Microphone 2 going to Channel Strip:


Microphone 3 - save $1400 in microphone and pre-amp cost:


Microphone 3 going to Channel Strip - Save $500 in microphone cost:

Edited by user Tuesday, July 20, 2010 6:04:22 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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User: TD_624
#2 Posted : Friday, June 18, 2010 12:34:35 PM(UTC)
Theo kinh nghiệm của tôi đã dùng rất nhiều mixers under $300 và các MIC build -in chỉ để dành cho DJ nói chuyện thôi chứ ca không bao giờ hay được .
- Riêng về karaoke thì nên mua separate karaoke mixer thì sẻ hay hơn nhiều
1 - pc to line 1 on the yamaha
2 - kara mixer line 2 on the yamaha
3 - Rec on the yamaha back to pc line in ( for record)
4 - yamaha line out to amplifier

- Nice system Bro.[thumbup] I love that mic[biggrin]
Kara system :
- x32 rack (mixer)
- e845s Wire Mic
- EV ELX115P (speakers)
- Roland KCW1 Sub
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Anh Cứ Đi Đi
User: Hai Lúa
#3 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 2:53:59 PM(UTC)
tuanphong624 wrote:
Theo kinh nghiệm của tôi đã dùng rất nhiều mixers under $300 và các MIC build -in chỉ để dành cho DJ nói chuyện thôi chứ ca không bao giờ hay được .
- Riêng về karaoke thì nên mua separate karaoke mixer thì sẻ hay hơn nhiều
1 - pc to line 1 on the yamaha
2 - kara mixer line 2 on the yamaha
3 - Rec on the yamaha back to pc line in ( for record)
4 - yamaha line out to amplifier

- Nice system Bro.[thumbup] I love that mic[biggrin]

Nghe lời bạn, tôi đưa mic vào Channel Strip rồi mới đưa ra Mixer. Updated sample recording above.
Lập loè lửa lựu đơm bông
Sau vài ba tháng đỏ hồng cả cây
Nỗi buồn vương vấn đâu đây
Đưa ta vào chốn lưu đày thế giang
Nghiệp này kiếp trước đã mang
Ngóng trông phép lạ bắt thang ta về
User: tUyET dEn
#4 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:35:20 PM(UTC)
wow... look at those equipments....
i can only [drool] [drool] [drool] [drool] [crying] [crying] [crying] [drool] [drool] [crying] [crying]

...

User: Hai Lúa
#5 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:52:16 PM(UTC)
tUyET dEn wrote:
wow... look at those equipments....
i can only [drool] [drool] [drool] [drool] [crying] [crying] [crying] [drool] [drool] [crying] [crying]

Just included another version using a cheap mic for comparison. If you can't tell the difference, then don't buy expensive equipments. Your voice talent is the most important thing. The equipment can only help a little bit. [flapper]
Lập loè lửa lựu đơm bông
Sau vài ba tháng đỏ hồng cả cây
Nỗi buồn vương vấn đâu đây
Đưa ta vào chốn lưu đày thế giang
Nghiệp này kiếp trước đã mang
Ngóng trông phép lạ bắt thang ta về
User: ALF
#6 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 8:32:44 PM(UTC)
Vcdz382 wrote:
Just included another version using a cheap mic for comparison. If you can't tell the difference, then don't buy expensive equipments. Your voice talent is the most important thing. The equipment can only help a little bit. [flapper]


I have posted so a few times around the forum regarding your conclusion. Thank you for your confirmation [biggrin]

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Nice Voice V!

I like the first recording better - Your Vocal is warmer from the first recording but the second recording sounds more natural. Heck, you save $1,500.00 in equipments - What can I say? [biggrin] [laugh]

BTW - You may want to try this: http://pro-audio.musicia...RAGAIN-Preamp?sku=182491 with your cheaper set up between MIC #2 and your Mixer Input. For $35.00, it worths the money to try it out.

HAPPY KARA
[love] [vo tay] [flapper]

Edited by user Wednesday, June 23, 2010 8:41:22 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

“Một trà, một rượu, một đàn bà
Ba cái lăng nhăng nó quấy ta
Chừa được thứ nào hay thứ nấy
Hoạ chăng chừa rượu với chừa trà.”

===
Tú Xương
User: AZNguy
#7 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 9:31:08 PM(UTC)
Vcdz382 wrote:
Just included another version using a cheap mic for comparison. If you can't tell the difference, then don't buy expensive equipments. Your voice talent is the most important thing. The equipment can only help a little bit. [flapper]


I like version 1 slightly better because the high and low frequency ranges are more in balance. Version 2 sounds a bit weaker on the high notes and slightly "muddy" on the low notes. However, I'd be perfectly happy with the quality of the cheaper setup ...knowing that I'd have to spend so much more to get such a tiny difference.

You are at the level where the phenomenon of "diminishing return" is in effect. That means: the first $200 will get you 90% of professional quality. You will need to spend $2,000 or even $20,000 to get the last 5 to 10%.

Can you tell a big difference in the live setting (while you're singing), Vcdz? (I remember liking the KMS105 more in the live sound setting through my speakers than in the recording.)

If you're happy with the 90%, then use the money to try out different cheaper microphones; they will give different sounds. (As much as I don't like Behringer equipments, I would agree with ALF's suggestion on trying out a TUBE preamp. It will give your vocal a warm and "colorful" sound that you will notice right away.)

What are you planning to do with the expensive stuffs now? Return them? Have a big party soon..and test them out on other people first. [biggrin]







Edited by user Wednesday, June 23, 2010 10:12:17 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

User: AZNguy
#8 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 10:31:56 PM(UTC)
By the way, I think you nailed the reverb setting. The new recordings sound much more natural than your old ones. Congrats.
User: theunknown
#9 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 10:52:42 PM(UTC)
Wow.. where do u find the money to get all these toys? LoL. So the Yamaha mixer is recommended? I may need to replace my vocopro DAX10

Edited by user Wednesday, June 23, 2010 10:59:39 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

User: ALF
#10 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:04:24 PM(UTC)
theunknown wrote:
Wow.. where do u find the money to get all these toys? LoL. So the Yamaha mixer is recommended? I may need to replace my vocopro DAX10


These are two different classes of mixers. Keep yours if you are happy with it for Karaoke. [biggrin]

Happy KARA! [laugh] [vo tay] [laugh]
“Một trà, một rượu, một đàn bà
Ba cái lăng nhăng nó quấy ta
Chừa được thứ nào hay thứ nấy
Hoạ chăng chừa rượu với chừa trà.”

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Tú Xương
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