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Previously, we allowed 2 machines per Pro, provided that you own both in the same household, key with the intention of using a test machine to check out new features and such w/o affecting the main dedicated karaoke machine. With v2 free key upgrade, we got a lot of requests to upgrade key and when upgrading keys, I see a lot of mis-use cases where people actively use multiple machines for the same key. In some cases, the machines are not even in the same state let alone be in the same household. When confronted, people come up with all kind of excuses like "key này của thằng em vợ, chắc nó không biết đi share với bạn" or "I'm an IT instructor, I change machines a lot as part of my teaching course".
Banning a key isn't a friendly thing to do and we rather spend the time making new features to the product than checking for mis-use keys and ban them. Therefore, in v2, the activation will fail automatically if the key has been used on another machine. On the same machine, you can activate as many times as you like. If your machine is broken and you no longer have access to it, Private Message us and we will help removing the old machine so you can activate your new machine. As always, we appreciate your support in TKaraoke and looking forward to adding a lot more modern features to TKaraokePro. |
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Monday, December 03, 2018 1:26:11 PM(UTC)
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I am guilty. I activate on my desktop for home karaoke but occasionally I use the laptop for mobile karaoke (Non-commerce used at friend's house). Should I just use laptop unit only? |
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Monday, December 03, 2018 1:31:19 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Nu_B  I am guilty. I activate on my desktop for home karaoke but occasionally I use the laptop for mobile karaoke (Non-commerce used at friend's house). Should I just use laptop unit only? I think you are fine there. I'm talking about abusive use far from the gray area like your case. |
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I'm guilty too. Me and my brother share a key and we've installed Tkaraoke pro V1 on 2 machines. We do this because it was allowed. I have never heard of the "same household" or "for testing purpose only" conditions before until today. Does this mean if we want to upgrade to V2 we have to buy an extra key?
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Originally Posted by: vds  I'm guilty too. Me and my brother share a key and we've installed Tkaraoke pro V1 on 2 machines. We do this because it was allowed. I have never heard of the "same household" or "for testing purpose only" conditions before until today. Does this mean if we want to upgrade to V2 we have to buy an extra key? Yes. |
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Originally Posted by: Hai Lúa  I think you are fine there. I'm talking about abusive use far from the gray area like your case. And how do you distinguish between "gray" and "black" areas for this enforcement, anh V?
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Originally Posted by: tkaraokeuser  And how do you distinguish between "gray" and "black" areas for this enforcement, anh V? What anh Nub did was he brought his laptop over to his friend's house. There is nothing wrong with that as it's his laptop. |
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Monday, December 03, 2018 4:22:16 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Hai Lúa  Previously, we allowed 2 machines per Pro, provided that you own both in the same household, key with the intention of using a test machine to check out new features and such w/o affecting the main dedicated karaoke machine. With v2 free key upgrade, we got a lot of requests to upgrade key and when upgrading keys, I see a lot of mis-use cases where people actively use multiple machines for the same key. In some cases, the machines are not even in the same state let alone be in the same household. When confronted, people come up with all kind of excuses like "key này của thằng em vợ, chắc nó không biết đi share với bạn" or "I'm an IT instructor, I change machines a lot as part of my teaching course".
Banning a key isn't a friendly thing to do and we rather spend the time making new features to the product than checking for mis-use keys and ban them. Therefore, in v2, the activation will fail automatically if the key has been used on another machine. On the same machine, you can activate as many times as you like. If your machine is broken and you no longer have access to it, Private Message us and we will help removing the old machine so you can activate your new machine. As always, we appreciate your support in TKaraoke and looking forward to adding a lot more modern features to TKaraokePro. HL, My key has been installed on 2 PCs @ home, I traded for Pro2 key(installed) build 08 and successfully activated on 2 PCs. Upgraded build 10 on my testing machine OK, yesterday upgrading on playing PC on family room and failed activation (key used on another PC ?). 2 PCs (desktop) there are always at home and never share my key with anyone, why it was failed on the 2nd one? Pls check on my key thx Edited by user Monday, December 03, 2018 4:24:57 PM(UTC)
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Same case with NuB. I tried to install on laptop to try to duplicate some bugs on desktop (bug: error message when switching tracks). But activation didn't allow me to add same key on the laptop. Same household though. Can you check on my key HL?
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Monday, December 03, 2018 4:56:22 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: locky  HL,
My key has been installed on 2 PCs @ home, I traded for Pro2 key(installed) build 08 and successfully activated on 2 PCs. Upgraded build 10 on my testing machine OK, yesterday upgrading on playing PC on family room and failed activation (key used on another PC ?). 2 PCs (desktop) there are always at home and never share my key with anyone, why it was failed on the 2nd one? Pls check on my key thx Since you are a big support of TKaraoke since the beginning of time, I'll make an exception and let your 2nd machine go through. PM CB and ask him to allow your 2nd machine, you can say HL was OK w/ it. On future purchases through, remember that 1 key will only work on 1 machine and the activation server doesn't care if it's in the same household or not. It's just a computer enforcing a particular policy ![[laugh]](/Images/Emoticons/msp_laugh.gif) . |
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