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#63 Posted : Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:37:23 PM(UTC)
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Do i get it 4 freezzz toOoozzz ??????? [razz]

Surez, for u ish [wub]
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#64 Posted : Tuesday, February 21, 2012 6:28:05 PM(UTC)
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5 more days until the released date
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#59 Posted : Tuesday, February 21, 2012 7:25:26 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: locky Go to Quoted Post
[scared] [scared] Looked like I crashed the songbook server again ............
The defect was filed.

The filed defect has entered the "published and testing" phase, can you verify that it's fixed (i.e. try to crash the server again) [laugh]
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#60 Posted : Tuesday, February 21, 2012 7:47:17 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DJ Vcdz Go to Quoted Post
The filed defect has entered the "published and testing" phase, can you verify that it's fixed (i.e. try to crash the server again) [laugh]

Sorry V, I should comment on the defect, tested OK so far could not reproduce the problem. You can closed artf1068.
Have filed 4 low requests related to artf1064 Show Connection state of client on the web.
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#65 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2012 12:24:06 AM(UTC)
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One interesting issue came up with anhz Locky's tracker: When TKaraoke is not connected to the web back-end, do we allow the users to manage the Song Queue? My thought is that the user should be allowed to manage the Song Queue even in the Disconnected State. This is useful for people to pass the songbook site around to friends and have them prepare the Song Queue to sing in a coming party. Even though TKaraoke is not connected at that time, users can prepare the Song Queue in advance. This design brings another issue though. When TKaraoke connects to the web back-end, the Song Queue currently in TKaraoke has higher priority than the Song Queue in the back-end. Therefore, when the Song Queue is out of sync, upon connecting, the Song Queue in the web site will be replaced by the Song Queue from TKaraoke. Therefore, preparing the Song Queue using the web site in advance doesn't work. To make it work, we need a new feature: the ability to SAVE the web Song Queue.

Summary:
1. Users will be able to manage the Web Song Queue even when TKaraoke is not connected to the Web
2. Users will be able to save their Web Song Queue and load them anytime


What do you guys think? Is this better than not allowing the users to manage the Web Song Queue at all when TKaraoke is not connected (as suggested by anhz Locky's in that tracker).
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Originally Posted by: DJ Vcdz Go to Quoted Post
One interesting issue came up with anhz Locky's tracker: When TKaraoke is not connected to the web back-end, do we allow the users to manage the Song Queue? My thought is that the user should be allowed to manage the Song Queue even in the Disconnected State. This is useful for people to pass the songbook site around to friends and have them prepare the Song Queue to sing in a coming party. Even though TKaraoke is not connected at that time, users can prepare the Song Queue in advance. This design brings another issue though. When TKaraoke connects to the web back-end, the Song Queue currently in TKaraoke has higher priority than the Song Queue in the back-end. Therefore, when the Song Queue is out of sync, upon connecting, the Song Queue in the web site will be replaced by the Song Queue from TKaraoke. Therefore, preparing the Song Queue using the web site in advance doesn't work. To make it work, we need a new feature: the ability to SAVE the web Song Queue.

Summary:
1. Users will be able to manage the Web Song Queue even when TKaraoke is not connected to the Web
2. Users will be able to save their Web Song Queue and load them anytime


What do you guys think? Is this better than not allowing the users to manage the Web Song Queue at all when TKaraoke is not connected (as suggested by anhz Locky's in that tracker).

It's very nice feature if we can work it out.
Ability to SAVE the song queue lead to some concerned scenarios:
1. How to prevent someone delete, move ... from someone? specially people always want to let their songs be the first in queue. What are privileges should each user have?
2. To prevent above case, user should have his/her own web song queue, it lead more to complicate for merging the all song queues when Tkaraoke connect;
Which song queue is high priority?

At this time, I've known that all of us very excited waiting for OQM release; So the ability to SAVE the web song queue should be put in next .....
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#70 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2012 2:51:44 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: locky Go to Quoted Post
It's very nice feature if we can work it out.
Ability to SAVE the song queue lead to some concerned scenarios:
1. How to prevent someone delete, move ... from someone? specially people always want to let their songs be the first in queue. What are privileges should each user have?
2. To prevent above case, user should have his/her own web song queue, it lead more to complicate for merging the all song queues when Tkaraoke connect;
Which song queue is high priority?

At this time, I've known that all of us very excited waiting for OQM release; So the ability to SAVE the web song queue should be put in next .....

I think you mis-understood the feature. Only users with the login of the host or Access Key can access that user's Song Queue. Everything would be the same except that you can still make changes to the Queue when TKaraoke is not connected. Also you can now save off the Song Queue to load it at a later time.
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Originally Posted by: DJ Vcdz Go to Quoted Post
I think you mis-understood the feature. Only users with the login of the host or Access Key can access that user's Song Queue. Everything would be the same except that you can still make changes to the Queue when TKaraoke is not connected. Also you can now save off the Song Queue to load it at a later time.

Yes, I'm confusing. Like you stated give the user ability to manage the queue in ahead for the Karaoke party even Tkaraoke is not connected?
1. If Tkaraoke is not connected then won't have the access key (Access Key is generated for every time Tkaraoke connected ?)
2. If I give the login to friends and they can manage the queue?
Need more explanation for this feature?
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#72 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2012 3:09:57 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: locky Go to Quoted Post
Yes, I'm confusing. Like you stated give the user ability to manage the queue in ahead for the Karaoke party even Tkaraoke is not connected?
1. If Tkaraoke is not connected then won't have the access key (Access Key is generated for every time Tkaraoke connected ?)
2. If I give the login to friends and they can manage the queue?
Need more explanation for this feature?

You can give out your lyrics db account password to have others manage your web song queue when TKaraoke is not connected. Everything else work the same as of now except that you can still change your queue when TKaraoke is not connected and you have the ability to save the web song queue and load it back at a later time.
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#67 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2012 3:13:16 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DJ Vcdz Go to Quoted Post
One interesting issue came up with anhz Locky's tracker: When TKaraoke is not connected to the web back-end, do we allow the users to manage the Song Queue? My thought is that the user should be allowed to manage the Song Queue even in the Disconnected State. This is useful for people to pass the songbook site around to friends and have them prepare the Song Queue to sing in a coming party. Even though TKaraoke is not connected at that time, users can prepare the Song Queue in advance. This design brings another issue though. When TKaraoke connects to the web back-end, the Song Queue currently in TKaraoke has higher priority than the Song Queue in the back-end. Therefore, when the Song Queue is out of sync, upon connecting, the Song Queue in the web site will be replaced by the Song Queue from TKaraoke. Therefore, preparing the Song Queue using the web site in advance doesn't work. To make it work, we need a new feature: the ability to SAVE the web Song Queue.

Summary:
1. Users will be able to manage the Web Song Queue even when TKaraoke is not connected to the Web
2. Users will be able to save their Web Song Queue and load them anytime


What do you guys think? Is this better than not allowing the users to manage the Web Song Queue at all when TKaraoke is not connected (as suggested by anhz Locky's in that tracker).



Personally, I don't think this is an important feature, in term of "needed to have". I don't think many people would sit there and look at the song list then queue up the list, in preparing to attend the karaoke party.

Also, with ur reply above, will the ACCESS KEY change, and if yes, how frequently or how will it change? If not then once a guest obtain the key, he/she will have control of the song queue.... forever?

For example, today I host a karaoke party with 5 guests, and give out the access key to them. After the party, each of them will have the access to the song queue, at their convenient?
What if later tonight, when they go home and queue up some songs in the queue list, how does TKaraoke prioritize the songs for all 5 of them?
What if tomorrow I run Tkaraoke and sing by myself, will that save queue list from those 5 guest effect my queue list?

Bottom line, I think it's better just to have the Online Song Book/Queue List as a one timer. Guests can have the access code to queue songs only at one specific party, when Tkaraoke is running. After that party or Tkaraoke is closed, the access code is not usuable. Online Queue List should not be accessible by any other guests.
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