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XLR and TRS microphone help
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#1 Posted : Wednesday, January 04, 2012 5:03:58 PM(UTC)
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I have a Shure PG48 that is connected by female XLR and 1/4 TRS male cable. I bought a Mackie PROFX8 and the microphone input is of XLR. They also have TRS input as well but I am not sure if my microphone can be connected to those TRS input. A picture of the PROFX8 can be found here.Picture of PROFX8
If I can connect my TRS cables to the mixer, which TRS inputs would I connect them to?

If I cannot connect my microphone to the TRS inputs, am I able to buy a XLR male to 1/4 TRS female adapter? Will that work? Thank you in advance.
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, January 04, 2012 5:16:14 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: d0rkster Go to Quoted Post
I have a Shure PG48 that is connected by female XLR and 1/4 TRS male cable. I bought a Mackie PROFX8 and the microphone input is of XLR. They also have TRS input as well but I am not sure if my microphone can be connected to those TRS input. A picture of the PROFX8 can be found here.Picture of PROFX8
If I can connect my TRS cables to the mixer, which TRS inputs would I connect them to?

If I cannot connect my microphone to the TRS inputs, am I able to buy a XLR male to 1/4 TRS female adapter? Will that work? Thank you in advance.



It will work if you have a male TRS to your Female TRS (on mixer) But XLR port on your mixer will have higher impedance. Recommend for all microphone plugs. The only thing you should use Line-in is your instruments or other pre-amp devices to keep it at same level. Yes you can use adapter 1/4'' to XLR to use the XLR port on your mixer.
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#3 Posted : Thursday, January 05, 2012 5:52:45 AM(UTC)
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Let me make sure that I am on the same page. First, clear up a couple of things for me:
1) The Shure PG48 is a wired microphone (not wireless), right?
2) The "1/4 TRS male" end of your microphone cable....does it have 2 rings or 1 ring around the connector? (2 rings = TRS = balanced / 1 ring = TS = unbalanced.) Regardless of how many rings on the connector, you can still connect it to any Line-In slot of your mixer; it will work (not into the INSERT slot, if that's what you're wondering.) If your cable has 1 line around the connector, then buying an XLR adapter will not make it balanced just because the ends are XLR. Just buy an XLR-to-XLR microphone cable to connect your mic to the mixer (Microphone cables that are constructed with XLR-to-XLR connectors are usually balanced).

(The reason I asked question #2 is that all the traditional karaoke microphones with 1/4-inch end usually have only 1 ring = TS = unbalanced. When you mentioned that your cable has 1/4 TRS, I need to make sure if that is what you really have.)
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#4 Posted : Thursday, January 05, 2012 3:24:22 PM(UTC)
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Look like you have a very decent mixer.

I agreed with Wonderboy there. But I wanted to add some more info so you can have a better choice in buying/choosing your Mic Cable.

_TS = Unbalanced - Cable with only 2 wires and usually the cheapest type. - Will introduce more noise into your system, from whatever the Mic pickups.

_TRS or XLR = balanced - Cable with 3 Wires and usually more expensive base on Gauge and shielding. - Third wire design to balance (Noise Suppression) the signal coming into your system. Resulting in cleaner sound.

So here are some type of cables available in the stores out there

XLR - 1/4 TS (Tip and Ring) Unbalanced
XLR - 1/4 TRS (Tip and 2 Rings)Balanced
XLR - XLR Balanced.

A few extra bucks will save you the headache when you need to pump up that volume and the speakers started to squeal at your guesses ears.

There are some of my ins and outs.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:36:30 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DJTV Go to Quoted Post
Look like you have a very decent mixer.

I agreed with Wonderboy there. But I wanted to add some more info so you can have a better choice in buying/choosing your Mic Cable.

_TS = Unbalanced - Cable with only 2 wires and usually the cheapest type. - Will introduce more noise into your system, from whatever the Mic pickups.

_TRS or XLR = balanced - Cable with 3 Wires and usually more expensive base on Gauge and shielding. - Third wire design to balance (Noise Suppression) the signal coming into your system. Resulting in cleaner sound.

So here are some type of cables available in the stores out there

XLR - 1/4 TS (Tip and Ring) Unbalanced
XLR - 1/4 TRS (Tip and 2 Rings)Balanced
XLR - XLR Balanced.

A few extra bucks will save you the headache when you need to pump up that volume and the speakers started to squeal at your guesses ears.

There are some of my ins and outs.

Chào DJTV,
Which brand r u recommend dorkster to buy the balance cables?
I think the quality of mic cable is also play as a key factor to get the best sound from the mic going into the mixer.
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#6 Posted : Friday, January 06, 2012 12:49:42 AM(UTC)
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Chào DJTV,
Which brand r u recommend dorkster to buy the balance cables?
I think the quality of mic cable is also play as a key factor to get the best sound from the mic going into the mixer.

Mogami or high end Monster Cable.
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2012 12:34:55 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Sơn Lê Go to Quoted Post
Mogami or high end Monster Cable.

12 years ago, when I looking for mic cable with xlr end.
I bought one 50foot Mogami and one 50foot livewire.
I test it out.
Mogami grade at 10; 50foot cable at that time is cost $79.99
Livewire grade at 8-9; 50foot cable at that time is cost $49.99
During that time, Monster cable is new and I m not sure how quality of the brand is. There price is right in between Mogami and Livewire.
At that times, I talked to the sale rep. He said "Mogami cable is more for recording studio". During that time, I just looking for mic cable and not really concern about recording.
From that on, I stay with Livewire brand cables for mics, instruments, and speakers.
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2012 1:28:43 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BPham Go to Quoted Post
12 years ago, when I looking for mic cable with xlr end.
I bought one 50foot Mogami and one 50foot livewire.
I test it out.
Mogami grade at 10; 50foot cable at that time is cost $79.99
Livewire grade at 8-9; 50foot cable at that time is cost $49.99
During that time, Monster cable is new and I m not sure how quality of the brand is. There price is right in between Mogami and Livewire.
At that times, I talked to the sale rep. He said "Mogami cable is more for recording studio". During that time, I just looking for mic cable and not really concern about recording.
From that on, I stay with Livewire brand cables for mics, instruments, and speakers.

totally true. I am just one of those who prefers less noise as possible.
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:24:39 PM(UTC)
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Hi D0rkster,

Personally I don't have a preferred brand as for my cables, but when I need to buy a new cable, I would come into the store( Long Mc Quade, Axxes,etc..)and ask the sales people to show me the cables section in the store, then I started to do some comparison. For the brands, US store might carry different names compare to Canadian stores, so you might not be able to find the same one anyway.

What I would do then, grab a few different brands from the shelves (the most expensive type) put them side by side and check out their SPECs. You will be surprised that most of them will have up to 95% of the same specs, the other 5% will be the different in name, durability, and assembly style, etc... After that, which ever name looks appeal to me then I will take it. Of course,if the specs are way over kill or doesn't apply to my situation and there is no need to spend that much for the top quality then I will check out the next lower price on the shelves and once again compare the specs to the top notch one.

My next checks will be the supporting sleeve of the cable at the plug assembly. Cable wires soldered to the Pins or plugs, insulated heat shrink tubes at the joints. For XLR female (plug into the MIC)get the type that has the locking spring tab and make sure there is a rubber ring on the connector end, this will help keep the cable tight to the mic and won't give you the loud pop sound when people start touching the end of the mic.

Try it and let me know.




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#10 Posted : Tuesday, February 21, 2012 3:08:54 PM(UTC)
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Hi my microphone has 1 ring around it. So I am assuming it is unbalanced. I also connected it to the XLR adapter. I was wondering what the consequence of having the microphones unbalanced? Also when I sing through the microphone, my voice is very low and dull. What can I do to make it better? My equipment is in the first post.
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