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âm thanh bị rè lúc mới vô bài
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#1 Posted : Saturday, May 07, 2011 11:58:23 PM(UTC)
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Chào các bạn, xin cho hỏi lúc bài hát bắt đầu trước khi vô nhạc, thì âm thanh lại bị rè ồn -noise-. Nhưng sau khi nhạc vô thì tiếng rè lại hết.

Mình nghĩ lúc máy bắt đầu mà nhạc chưa vô, máy đã phát vô mixer, nhưng chưa có nhạc cho nên bị noise.

Không biết các bạn có gặp chùng trường hợp giống mình hay không, và có cách nào chỉnh lại cho khỏi bị noise trước khi vô nhạc?

Cám ơn đã đọc.

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#2 Posted : Wednesday, December 28, 2011 11:45:08 AM(UTC)
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i got the same issues. looking for help. do you still have this noise? or fix it? pls let me know. thanks
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this happened to old "tape" songs. Since the quality was not as good as today equipments. It's unavoidable that you will have a few noise before the songs start.
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, December 28, 2011 10:46:35 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mrboy Go to Quoted Post
Chào các bạn, xin cho hỏi lúc bài hát bắt đầu trước khi vô nhạc, thì âm thanh lại bị rè ồn -noise-. Nhưng sau khi nhạc vô thì tiếng rè lại hết.

Mình nghĩ lúc máy bắt đầu mà nhạc chưa vô, máy đã phát vô mixer, nhưng chưa có nhạc cho nên bị noise.

Không biết các bạn có gặp chùng trường hợp giống mình hay không, và có cách nào chỉnh lại cho khỏi bị noise trước khi vô nhạc?

Cám ơn đã đọc.


Add compressor in front the power amp.
Use DBX brand, DBX 166xs. I used the other brand and it is still noisy.
In my master bed room, I used 266xl with home stereo.
In the living room, I used 166xl with pa system.
In my hobby room to test my pa system, I used 166xl.
166xl is the older model, 166xs is new model.

Noise can come from house hood plug outlet due to bad ground. Light switch if it share same power source. Someone in the house is using hair dryer and it feed in the sound system. sound system unit transformer, power supply, unit fan motor etc... That y u have to use noise reduction gear or some kind other source to reduce it.
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#6 Posted : Friday, December 30, 2011 12:06:07 AM(UTC)
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did you have the same issue and it fixed when you added compressor?
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#7 Posted : Friday, January 06, 2012 1:57:23 AM(UTC)
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just want to verify if you have same issue as discussed ealier, the compressor took care it. then i may buy one.
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#8 Posted : Saturday, January 07, 2012 12:43:32 AM(UTC)
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just want to verify if you have same issue as discussed ealier, the compressor took care it. then i may buy one.

Chào Thinhho,
Sorry for the delay response.
Let discuss about noise in the sound system.
As u or I known that we used the home stereo system and we don't have that problem.
Y home stereo doesn't has that problem? Because home stereo only has one control volume.
We gathering all the gears and cables to make karaoke system.
Different manufacture for each gear.
Some manufacture make good gear because they include noise reduction in the gear and some manufacture don't.
So we rig up a karaoke system, now the system is not only have one control volume but it has multiple control volumes in the system such as pre mic volume, mixer volume, xf volume, EQ volume, compressor volume, and amplifier volume.
If we turn all the gear control volumes down or completely zero then it fixed the noise but the output would be not enough sound or not at all.
Since the system has too many volumes control, we turn some of those gear control volumes up 50% to 100% and We control at the mixer control volumes.
Anytime we have one gear control volume turn up, let say the amplifier volume is set 80-100% most of the time.
That amplifier will pick any signal is come in from the input, because we has assigned that amplifier to be active, be ready to pick up signal and output out at high volume of watts to the speakers.
Let be more clearly by give an example: a water facet at the house. if u open a little, water run it has less noise. If u open full, water run has more noise.
Same theory applied to the amplifier.
That y we have to learn to control it.
Found where the problem is come from and fix it.
Try to use the power outlet strip with surge protector, don't use cheap power outlet strip.
Sometime the wall plug outlet has bad ground(that was happened to me at my house)

I use compressor on the mic channel strip, plug in at the insert plug to control voice.
I used another compressor hook up between the mixer and power amplifier for two purposes to control the main sound and noise.
The 2 purposes are:
One, control music sound from peak out causing distortion, contour, threshold, sound ratio, sound attack, sound release.
Two, using the threshold expander/gate to control noise when pause the music or nothing going on while system is active.

If u want to understand more, go download either dbx 166xl or dbx 166xs manual and read on the threshold expander/gate.
U can buy use dbx 166xl for $89.00 or cheaper on Guitar Center online. The dbx166xl is discontinue model. New dbx 166xs is $239.00

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#9 Posted : Saturday, January 07, 2012 8:51:40 AM(UTC)
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Thank to Bpham as you always have very good, practical explanations to the problems
Happy karaoke
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#10 Posted : Saturday, January 07, 2012 8:27:55 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for response with good detail. i will buy DBX 166xs and let you know how it works.
thanks again
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