Welcome Guest! To enable all features please Login or Register.

Notification

Icon
Error

Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
User: AZNguy
#1 Posted : 15 years ago
METHODS:
-Before recording the actual song, I recorded a test tone and matched its volume to the output volume within 0.1dB so the volumes are the same.
-Do "loopback" test---play the soundclip through a soundcard's output and record with the input. I loopbacked 20 passes to magnify the differences so that it's easier to notice and to see how "clean" each soundcard is. You only need to compare the result of 1st pass for normal use. A "clean" soundcard keeps the quality close to the original. A "colored" soundcard changes the sound right away; and sometimes this is a good thing if you like the new sound.
-I only used .WAV format throughout the test to retain quality, but I upload all final clips as mp3 @192kbps.

List of soundcards being tested:

For Laptop and External units:
-Dell vostro 1400 onboard sound
-SoundBlaster X-FI GO (usb)
-SoundBlaster X-FI Surround (usb)
-SoundBlaster Notebook Express (PCMCIA express)
-Echo Indigo IOX (PCMCIA express)
-M-audio MobilePre (usb)

For Desktop:
-Asus P6T motherboard's onboard sound
-SoundBlaster X-FI XtremeAudio (PCIe)
-SoundBlaster X-FI Fatal1ty Pro (PCI-e)

I also have a couple of really high-end "soundcards" like Apogee Rosetta, Mytek, and RME, but I could not get the loopback test to work on them so I left them out.

UserPostedImage



RESULTS:


ORIGINAL CLIP:




I. OUTPUT and RECORDING quality on the same soundcard:

<p>




______________________________________________________________________________________________

I use the Asus internal soundcard as a standard for these following tests because I think it's clean enough.


II. RECORDING quality






III. OUTPUT quality





MY FINDINGS:

1. X-FI GO, Surround, and Notebook Express dramatically distort the original sound after only 1 pass. I believe they compress the audio signal too much.

2. I personally like the Indigo IOX. I can hear deeper and tighter bass. It does an excellent job of recording too. However, it's the most expensive.

3. X-FI XtremeAudio and Fatal1ty Pro produce a bit tighter bass than onboard soundcards. Recording quality is very clean. I think any desktop X-FI will give the same quality here for karaoke. (I cannot comment on Gaming capabilities).

4. MobilePre adds the most noise to the audio. (If anyone has this MobilePre and wants to prove my test wrong, then please post another recording. Thanks). I'm prety sure I did a bad job of presenting this unit. I used a 1/8" cable to connect "stereo line out" to "stereo mic in" (instead of XLR and 1/4" cables). I didn't want to use XLR and 1/4" because it involves going through the mixer. I will do another test later to compare onboard sound to Mobilepre ...going through the mixer...playing and recording live karaoke.

5. Onboard Asus and Dell soundcards are surprisingly not as bad as I thought. The recording quality is fairly clean. Sound output is good, but kind of boring; the bass isn't very tight but decent enough.

I also have an Echo Mia soundcard in my desktop that I have been using to record vocals for the past 7 years. It's on the same level with M-Audio Audiophile 2496. Loop recording of the Echo Mia produces a very high-pitch sound by the 3rd pass; I still don't know what's wrong. It sounds as good as the Echo Indigo IOX though.

CONCLUSION:
Judging quality of other soundcards while using your soundcard is like judging colors while wearing sunglasses. I suggest that you play them through different computers and CD players to see if you can still hear the same differences every time.

The sound quality of these soundcards become more obvious when you hook it up to a karaoke system. The karaoke mixer will contribute significantly to the overall sound. However, most of you on this forum have a different mixer than what I have...so it would not be a valid comparison if I had hooked it up to my karaoke system.

For the most part, I couldn't tell the difference unless I listen very closely. Personally, I'm happy with the onboard soundcards. If I need to upgrade, I would buy:
-Echo Indigo IOX for laptop
-cheapest X-FI soundcard for desktop (I don't care about gaming audio)
-X-FI Surround just because it colors the sound, looks cool, has USB connectivity, and has RCA outputs.


Edited May 22: Put all songs into Flash player, added findings and conclusions.

Edited by user 15 years ago  | Reason: Not specified

User: TD_624
#2 Posted : 15 years ago
Can U upload those file to vietsat and use flash-player in the forum for convenience[biggrin]
Kara system :
- x32 rack (mixer)
- e845s Wire Mic
- EV ELX115P (speakers)
- Roland KCW1 Sub
=====================================

Anh Cứ Đi Đi
User: Hai Lúa
#3 Posted : 15 years ago
Thanks anz for such a complete testing/report. Any conclusion you can draw from these tests? I'm interested in the M-Audio Mobile's result.
Lập loè lửa lựu đơm bông
Sau vài ba tháng đỏ hồng cả cây
Nỗi buồn vương vấn đâu đây
Đưa ta vào chốn lưu đày thế giang
Nghiệp này kiếp trước đã mang
Ngóng trông phép lạ bắt thang ta về
User: AZNguy
#4 Posted : 15 years ago
Bump for better layout and organization.
User: ALF
#5 Posted : 15 years ago
Very good efforts! - Thanks AZN.
“Một trà, một rượu, một đàn bà
Ba cái lăng nhăng nó quấy ta
Chừa được thứ nào hay thứ nấy
Hoạ chăng chừa rượu với chừa trà.”

===
Tú Xương
User: hoangt12345
#6 Posted : 15 years ago
Need help: Desktop w/ SoundBlaster XFi XtremeGamer -> Alesis 8USB -> Denon Receiver -> Speaker
How to suppress the noise (humming) that goes to the mixer. The output of the sound card -> 3.5 mm to 2 RCA -> RCA to 1/4 plug -> either line in 5/6 or 7/8 Alesis. Main Mix Out Alesis -> in Left/Right Receiver

Knob on line in of either line in 5/6 or 6/8 Alesis @ 12:0'Clock, Main Mix know @ 12 O'clock the LED meters shows at least 2 green light light up 2 level when nothing is playing on the PC. However, there is no humming sound on the speaker until I raise the Receiver level up to -20 db

Is there anyway to solve that?

Thank you
User: Hai Lúa
#7 Posted : 15 years ago
hoangt12345 wrote:
Need help: Desktop w/ SoundBlaster XFi XtremeGamer -> Alesis 8USB -> Denon Receiver -> Speaker
How to suppress the noise (humming) that goes to the mixer. The output of the sound card -> 3.5 mm to 2 RCA -> RCA to 1/4 plug -> either line in 5/6 or 7/8 Alesis. Main Mix Out Alesis -> in Left/Right Receiver

Knob on line in of either line in 5/6 or 6/8 Alesis @ 12:0'Clock, Main Mix know @ 12 O'clock the LED meters shows at least 2 green light light up 2 level when nothing is playing on the PC. However, there is no humming sound on the speaker until I raise the Receiver level up to -20 db

Is there anyway to solve that?

Thank you

Why don't you go directly from 3.5mm to 1/4" in one cable? Keep the mixer at least 1/2 meter away from any power source.
Lập loè lửa lựu đơm bông
Sau vài ba tháng đỏ hồng cả cây
Nỗi buồn vương vấn đâu đây
Đưa ta vào chốn lưu đày thế giang
Nghiệp này kiếp trước đã mang
Ngóng trông phép lạ bắt thang ta về
Users browsing this topic
Guest
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.


Powered by YAF. Customized for TKaraoke. Privacy Notice